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Post by Taugi Sänan on Jan 18, 2012 15:40:38 GMT -5
How do you feel about these personal pronouns created by someone earlier?
"Ni-" is the stem for "to be" and the pronouns act as suffixes
-nu = I/me -mo = You -tan = He/she
For any plural noun, you just add -kän at the end to make it plural so now we have
-nukän = we/us -mokän = plural of you -tankän = they
Ninu = I am Nimo = You are Nitan = He/she is
Ninukän = We are Nimokän = You (plural) are Nitankän = They are
Reply with your opinions!
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Post by szabolcs on Jan 18, 2012 15:50:51 GMT -5
It sounds pretty nice to me, the fact of combining the verb with the pronouns also seems to be really smart. But aren't "nukän" "mokän" and "tankän" a bit long to pronounce ? And what's the use of the diaresis "a" ?
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Post by Taugi Sänan on Jan 18, 2012 15:54:47 GMT -5
It sounds pretty nice to me, the fact of combining the verb with the pronouns also seems to be really smart. But aren't "nukän" "mokän" and "tankän" a bit long to pronounce ? And what's the use of the diaresis "a" ? Interesting incite, szabolcs. Personally, I think of it as a good thing to have a few different vowel sounds of that likeness. A is more like the a in "father," where as ä is like the a in "same." It's a good tool for when we make words in the future and they end up being similar to the point of confusion. Also, I think diacritics add flare to the words, but it isn't set in stone. They can always be removed.
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Post by szabolcs on Jan 18, 2012 16:04:03 GMT -5
Interesting incite, szabolcs. Personally, I think of it as a good thing to have a few different vowel sounds of that likeness. A is more like the a in "father," where as ä is like the a in "same." It's a good tool for when we make words in the future and they end up being similar to the point of confusion. Also, I think diacritics add flare to the words, but it isn't set in stone. They can always be removed. I see, nice. It involves a lot of vocabulary is going to be invented... That's probably the beginning of a great thing. ;D
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Post by Taugi Sänan on Jan 18, 2012 16:06:23 GMT -5
Indeed! I hope we can get a functioning dictionary as soon as possible. I'm crossing my fingers for it, but it seems like it's just the two of us for now.
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Post by diode on Jan 19, 2012 14:15:57 GMT -5
I'll paste the same response I posted in the /int/ thread, plus a little extra. Please remember that these are just proposals, and if you think it sucks you're more than welcome to say so.
I propose 'na' as a possessive, with the n omitted if it would result in a double n.
Nuna - Mine Mona - Yours Tana - His/Hers
Plurals:
nukäna = ours mokäna = plural of yours tankäna = theirs
I notice we have no gender distinction yet. In a way, that's kinda interesting.
Nisa = It is Nisa nuna = It is mine Nisa mona = It is yours Nisa tana = It is his/hers Nisa nukana = It is ours Nisa mokana = It is yours (plural) Nisa tankana = It is theirs
Tenses:
Su - Past Fe - Future
This would leave us with a couple of places to put our su and fe tense identifiers - we could have:
'Nimo su ba' or 'Nimo ba su' and both would mean 'you were not'
I'm leaning toward having the negative (ba) always come before the tense (su or fe)
Nisa su nuna - It was mine Nisa fe mona - It will be yours
Ninu su - I was Nimo fe - You will be
Conjunctions:
va - and xo - or ixo - either ixoba - neither tay - for, to (reasoning) nak - to (directing) kat - but, yet (contrast)
Affirmations:
Yes - Be No - Ba
We can add Ba to the end of al the 'ni - to be' words to negate them, and combine the words to create shortened variants for more casual statements:
Nisa ba - It is not Nisaba - It isn't Ninu ba - I am not Ninuba - I'm not Nimo ba - You are not Nimoba - You're not/You aren't Nisaba su nuna - It wasn't mine (Literally: 'It isn't previously mine')
Here are a few examples of sentences with what we have above:
Ninukan, kat nisaba tankana - We are, but they aren't Ninukan, kat nisaba su tankana - We are, but they wont/weren't Ninukan fe, kat nisaba fe tankana - We will/will be, but they will/will be Nisa fe mona va nuna - It will be yours and mine Nisa ixo mona xo nuna - It is neither yours or mine Be xo ba - Yes or no Nisa su tay nuna - It was for me Nuna nak mona - Me to you
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Post by Taugi Sänan on Jan 19, 2012 16:27:53 GMT -5
How is "x" pronounced?
Looks good by the way.
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Post by diode on Jan 19, 2012 16:55:14 GMT -5
How is "x" pronounced? Looks good by the way. 'xo' I was thinking as 'zoh', In 'ixo' I was thinking 'ik-zoh', but I suppose 'eye-zo' or 'ee-zo' would be valid interpretations of that spelling too.
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Post by Taugi Sänan on Jan 19, 2012 17:10:25 GMT -5
What about the letter "z"?
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Post by diode on Jan 19, 2012 21:37:35 GMT -5
A 'z' would work.
Zo Izo Izoba
Pronunciation wise: Ee-zo or eye-zo?
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Post by Taugi Sänan on Jan 21, 2012 13:23:55 GMT -5
Pronunciation wise: Ee-zo or eye-zo? I think ee-zo works best.
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